“Basically we are just punks who are bored by rock bands much of the time.” – Robert Inhuman
Voici un interview que j’ai fait il y a un petit bout de temps avec Robert de Realicide. C’est en anglais, et je doute avoir le goût/temps/compétences pour traduire le tout. Comme c’était ma première tentative d’interview, le début est un peu ordinaire, mais les choses deviennent plus intéressantes, à mon humble avis, un peu plus loin. L’interview a été réalisé via courriel en juin dernier. Oh, et voici le lien pour le MySpace du groupe et pour le site web, où vous pouvez entre autre télécharger les paroles et les essais du groupe. Merci à Stephen pour la révision linguistique de ma partie.
Realicide’s Manifesto :
“Realicide, the collective band and publications label, is our assertion of contemporary punk media, bridging aesthetic diversity through the idea that punk is an experimental and malleable life philosophy, not limited by precedent or degrees of popularity. Beyond art and more than hypothetical, Realicide is strength for change in one’s own life. It is the ability to destroy a reality of abuse and slavery, in favor of seeking alternatives built upon respect and compassion. When fear is the norm, love is radical.”
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I don’t like to introduce people, so I’ll let you do the work. Who are you, or who would you like to be known as?
Robert: I’m Robert Inhuman, from Cincinnati in the midwest US but have been all over America and a few other places quite a lot over the years. During all this I’ve been the organizer of a band and publications imprint called Realicide, which has been both socio-political and autobiographical for everyone involved, most commonly using the medium of noisy hardcore punk and electronics.
Realicide’s music is described as “nomadic socio-political gabber punk”. What does all this mean and how did you develop this style?
Robert: For a long time it meant we were moving a lot, living temporarily in various cities and on tour for long periods. It’s socio-political cos with an interest in Anarchism. We don’t bother much with the left versus right of politics, but we are definitely interested in how people interact with eachother and whose rules they are abiding by in doing so. It’s gabber, often at least, because this is the hard electronic parallel to punk rock; very abrasive and energetic. Basically we are just punks who are bored by rock bands much of the time.
You also often use the expression “contemporary hardcore” when referring to the type of music Realicide plays. Do you feel hardcore music in general has been stagnating for a while now? How do you think Realicide is bringing something new to hardcore?
Robert: All music stagnates when it becomes an established and popular formula, especially once the element of cultural struggle is neutralized and it is both easy and accepted to do things a certain way – in composition, delivery, affiliated aesthetic. I don’t really think we are doing any one thing new at all, but maybe just combining things we like from previous music in a way we always hoped to see. I think in Realicide’s case we attempt to take influence from Berlin’s digital hardcore aesthetic from the 90′s, but with the social content more like early Anarcho-punk bands like Crass or Conflict, the manic quality of Japanese speedcore and punk, and a lot of other things that we like for their content or just their sound. I’m into seeing something cool and helping it continue, but this always seems more legitimate when not rigidly bound to technical traditions. So it’s the idea “punk’s not dead” but the punk of 2010 is NOT the punk of 1977, and we’re really happy about that.
So, would you say you fit more into the electronic or hardcore punk scene? Or do you just feel like an outsider from both? Is this uncommon identity sometimes hard to manage for a band?
Robert: Yeah people are most comfortable with bands that fit into one exact genre so they can tell their friends they like that kind of music; appealingly simple and not much critical consideration required. But we’re a group founded on an anti-xenophobic agenda; wanting to bridge things and not be limited to one kind of person coming to our shows or wanting to be friends. We saw too many fans of grindcore and disgusting types of breakcore flocking to the group and label, so we started actually trying to not scream as much, take out some of the blastbeats, and write a lot of essays to shed more light on the intentions of each song. I think by now we have equal affiliation with hardcore punk and electronic, on tour and in who picks up our materials, but we also have affiliation still with pockets of the noise community and the more adventurous avenues of hiphop.
Would you say that your decision to be Straight Edge was linked to your experience in the electronic scene? How do you feel about the state of Straight Edge today?
Robert: No, my decision to adopt the term “straight edge” was ironically a reactionary choice from encounters with all kinds of people. For years people would offer me alcohol, or anything else, and I’d say “hey thanks but nah not for me”. So many times people would take a polite refusal as an insult or even a threat, and they’d aggressively say “ha what are you straight edge or something?” to which I’d try to calm things down by saying “no I just don’t want it, it’s no problem”. But in most of these situations, refusing casual use IS seen as a problem – it’s seen as someone drawing a line in the sand and giving the finger to whoever is on the other side getting wasted. This unwanted element of conflict and social tension happened so many times that eventually I just buckled and said “ok yeah I’ve got fucking straight edge”. I thought that if my casual abstinence from smoking and drinking was something that made people feel ashamed of what they were doing to themselves and nervous, assuming I was judging them, then maybe the culture of drugs and alcohol was just complete bullshit after all. Why should the common ground that let’s strangers hang out and talk be something that is used to blur their experiences? If somebody is embarrassed to be drunk around someone who is not, then maybe it’s a sign they should try to give it a rest. Most of my good friends use substances, but they don’t spend their time talking about it and they aren’t suspicious or hostile with someone who wants to remain sober. All in all, I don’t smoke or drink because I have never enjoyed those things physically or socially, but I am “straight edge” out of a rebellious nature, and as a propagandic counterexample to the misconception that you’ve got to be high to do something exciting or feel excited. I’m straight edge because I want life raw.

In many songs, you talk about compassion and self-sacrifice. These are pretty complex concepts and heavy principles to live by. How do you actively pursue them in your everyday life?
Robert: A key thing for me is whenever I am angry with someone, whether it’s a friend who didn’t meet me on time or a stranger who violently robs me, I try to figure out what is the aspect of them angering me and I can see a bit of it in myself. I see that I’m no more perfect than an enemy really, and this offers a moment of common ground in which they can be seen as a potential friend instead. This can be challenging when things are bad, but it is something I have tried to do since I was very young. Forgiveness does not equate a compromise of values or ethics, it can just be the strength to cast off a hate brought about by the delusion that some of us are better than others. As for self-sacrifice, that is about giving something of yourself up, but again not supposed to be an ethical weakness at all. Willfully serving others, especially the humbling act of serving someone who has no capacity to benefit you equally in service or payment, is the ultimate confirmation that you are not an authority to anyone but yourself, and that you are not some superior creature with the right to go through life taking and not offering anything. This action against narcissism, I believe, is the type of action necessary in resisting the viral habits of humanity on our planet. If we could focus on giving and nurturing rather than continuously reaping, maybe things could be very different overall. This willful giving is completely different from conventional employment or slavery. It is the act of exercising authority over one’s own life to benefit other lives. I guess I haven’t given any solid examples of this in my real life, but maybe you see what I mean that it is an all-encompassing philosophy. It is a challenge every day because the world we’re generally in insists we fight for ourselves before serving our surrounding peers and habitat.
The phrase “The Choice Is Yours” is stamped all over the “Resisting The Viral Self” record. Why do you emphasize so much on it? Is this a direct way to encourage people to follow the straight edge / vegetarian path, or is it simply more your personal way of saying “Question Everything”?
Robert: Yeah and it is the title of our EP from a few months later too, in October 2009. “The Choice Is Yours” applies to absolutely everything. It is your choice to not drink alcohol or to abstain from eating flesh. It is someone else’s choice to do the opposite! It’s my choice to avoid conventional employment, in pursuit of a life sustained by my own creative projects with my friends. It is many of my friends’ choice to have legit jobs so they do not have to worry about money. Really “the choice is yours” is not an inherent command or suggestion to do anything. It is just a reminder that our lives are our own to shape into whatever we want. Nobody is forcing us to be anyone. There are a lot of averts and propaganda, but we have the choice to subscribe to these things or ignore them. The idea is that you can’t just blame (scapegoat) other people for the life you’ve got if you are unhappy with it. I’m not in favor of our government, but I’m not going to waste my time bitching about it instead of just trying to find ways around it and live a life the way I want. When there’s conflict, you face it accordingly, but otherwise you take the only thing in the world you can ever really own, Your Life, and make the most of it however you see fit. A statement for autonomy, action, responsibility, empowerment…
Apart from being the vocalist / graphic artist and doing all sorts of other things for Realicide, you also run Realicide Youth Records. Do you sometimes find it hard to manage all these different roles and be on tour at the same time?
Robert: It’s hard, but any kind of worthwhile life is pretty hard. You just have to follow through with what you’re interested in, want to see in the world, and feel conviction behind. It was hardest at times when I was homeless or on tour for months on end, but this year I set a goal to establish better balance in my life and though the work is still there is feels less difficult.
What’s coming up in the next couple of months for Realicide?
Robert: For summer we’re finishing the “To Live A Life Against Abuse” CD which has all our vinyl EP’s collected along with some new stuff, and Jim Swill’s new book “Caustic Nostalgia” which has been edited for many months now. After a few scattered gigs in the east US, we will fly to Europe for October / November and tour extensively. No plans yet after that; we have to wait and survive it all. Meanwhile, Birth tours Europe solo August / September, so we wish him luck.

Photo credits
1) 08/12/08 in Boston, MA by Bill T. Miller
2) 07/01/08 in Oakland, CA by Dalton
3) 2010 Realicide Euro Tour logo by Robert Inhuman